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		By: Divine		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.geeksmint.com/devuan-without-systemd-why-should-you-use-it/#comment-3903&quot;&gt;Cipher&lt;/a&gt;.

You might want to look &lt;a href=&quot;https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Ceres-without-Systemd&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow noopener&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; up.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a target="_blank" href="https://www.geeksmint.com/devuan-without-systemd-why-should-you-use-it/#comment-3903">Cipher</a>.</p>
<p>You might want to look <a target="_blank" href="https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Ceres-without-Systemd" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">this</a> up.</p>
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		By: Cipher		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2019 19:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m seeing Devuan Ceres with systemd.
What happened to systemd free?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m seeing Devuan Ceres with systemd.<br />
What happened to systemd free?</p>
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		By: David Rahd Neto		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Rahd Neto]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Jun 2019 15:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Slackware was my first linux distribution back in the 98 and I learned a lot from it. Because of it, I became a fan of the KISS philosophy, BSD-like inits and even started to use BSD OSes and BSD tools in Slackware like the netBSD&#039;s srcpkg.
But after using Debian and Debian based distros, it became my favorite distro and what I see as the Linux OS standard. It&#039;s tools, quality and stability made it to be the easiest unix system to use, upgrade and maintain.

But since Debian started to ship only with systemd I had all sort of boot problems in many of my machines. I don&#039;t like systemd, primarily because I never could have a single functional installation of a distro using it, secondly because it over complicate simple things, like binary log files. Seriously? Why? To be 0,001% more efficient? Please Keep It Simple, Stupid.
Since Debian doesn&#039;t give me choice, I now am a proudly Devuan user. I still have some Slackware and BSDs installations primarily in my dedicated servers because BSD-like inits are usually much more easy/intuitive to manually config than systemv ones. But since Devuan gives me the choice to install other inits with more human friendly scripts/conf files. It could become my only OS in the future.
Long live to the Devuan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slackware was my first linux distribution back in the 98 and I learned a lot from it. Because of it, I became a fan of the KISS philosophy, BSD-like inits and even started to use BSD OSes and BSD tools in Slackware like the netBSD&#8217;s srcpkg.<br />
But after using Debian and Debian based distros, it became my favorite distro and what I see as the Linux OS standard. It&#8217;s tools, quality and stability made it to be the easiest unix system to use, upgrade and maintain.</p>
<p>But since Debian started to ship only with systemd I had all sort of boot problems in many of my machines. I don&#8217;t like systemd, primarily because I never could have a single functional installation of a distro using it, secondly because it over complicate simple things, like binary log files. Seriously? Why? To be 0,001% more efficient? Please Keep It Simple, Stupid.<br />
Since Debian doesn&#8217;t give me choice, I now am a proudly Devuan user. I still have some Slackware and BSDs installations primarily in my dedicated servers because BSD-like inits are usually much more easy/intuitive to manually config than systemv ones. But since Devuan gives me the choice to install other inits with more human friendly scripts/conf files. It could become my only OS in the future.<br />
Long live to the Devuan.</p>
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		By: jose		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2018 17:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Glad I found this article, and for anyone who may read this, let me say, Devuan has become MY ONLY weapon of choice for desktop use, above all other linux distros. Blame systemd or not, maybe my laptop being a tough cookie on compatibility. But,  testing previously all major desktop based distros like Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, Manjaro, (the later has become very popular and would be my second choice, even if ark based wich may appear a bit strange for newcomers), and have to say DEVUAN BEATS &#039;EM ALL.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad I found this article, and for anyone who may read this, let me say, Devuan has become MY ONLY weapon of choice for desktop use, above all other linux distros. Blame systemd or not, maybe my laptop being a tough cookie on compatibility. But,  testing previously all major desktop based distros like Ubuntu, Debian, Mint, Manjaro, (the later has become very popular and would be my second choice, even if ark based wich may appear a bit strange for newcomers), and have to say DEVUAN BEATS &#8216;EM ALL.</p>
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		By: jawnhenry		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Oct 2018 20:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amazing that no one responded to your Devuan article. What this tells to me is that MOST people really don&#039;t care about Linux any more; they only care about whether something is the &quot;latest and greatest&quot;, and to heck with performance, Q-A, and testing.
A very good, well-documented, VERY-well-supported example of this is that Linux Mint 17.3 went from being &lt;i&gt;the very best&lt;/i&gt; of ALL Linux distributions going into 2017, when it was based on the &#039;non-systemd&#039; Ubuntu 14.04; then started to drop immediately when version 18 came out--which was, not coincidentally, based on Ubuntu 16.04 AND systemd. Oh, and Mint 18 &lt;i&gt;magically&lt;/i&gt; jumped up from Mint 17.3&#039;s 1.4 GB to 1.8 GB.
Today (THIS) day, Mint is #4 behind Manjaro, elementary, and MX-17.1. And dropping. Be sure and read the &quot;7-Day Average (Rolling Forecast)&quot;. That&#039;s the only one which gives an accurate picture of how well, or not, a distro is doing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing that no one responded to your Devuan article. What this tells to me is that MOST people really don&#8217;t care about Linux any more; they only care about whether something is the &#8220;latest and greatest&#8221;, and to heck with performance, Q-A, and testing.<br />
A very good, well-documented, VERY-well-supported example of this is that Linux Mint 17.3 went from being <i>the very best</i> of ALL Linux distributions going into 2017, when it was based on the &#8216;non-systemd&#8217; Ubuntu 14.04; then started to drop immediately when version 18 came out&#8211;which was, not coincidentally, based on Ubuntu 16.04 AND systemd. Oh, and Mint 18 <i>magically</i> jumped up from Mint 17.3&#8217;s 1.4 GB to 1.8 GB.<br />
Today (THIS) day, Mint is #4 behind Manjaro, elementary, and MX-17.1. And dropping. Be sure and read the &#8220;7-Day Average (Rolling Forecast)&#8221;. That&#8217;s the only one which gives an accurate picture of how well, or not, a distro is doing.</p>
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